Epstein Denied He Was 'The Devil Himself' in Chilling Interview
In new documents from the U.S. Department of Justice, an interview with Jeffrey Epstein has emerged where he denied being 'the devil' and discussed the sources of his wealth.
Apr 20, 2026 0
Epstein stated that he «earned» his money by consulting for people who do «bad things».
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According to media reports, the new document release from January 30 contains footage of an interview that pedophile Jeffrey Epstein gave to former Donald Trump political strategist Steve Bannon. The conversation took place at Epstein«s infamous mansion in New York.
Epstein denied being the devil but joked that he has a «good mirror».
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A significant portion of the conversation was dedicated to the origin of Epstein«s wealth. He categorically rejected claims that he became rich through »dirty money«, stating that he »earned« his fees by consulting for wealthy and influential people. Bannon countered that his interlocutor advised »the worst people in the world« who commit »huge bad deeds«. Epstein responded that ethics is a complex subject and tried to justify himself by talking about donations to polio vaccination programs in poor countries.
Epstein expressed surprise upon hearing that the devil is considered incredibly intelligent.
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The conversation took an unexpected turn when Bannon asked if mothers would agree to exchange their child«s life for money. Epstein, irritated, stated that everyone would prefer money, adding: »I think if you told them that the devil himself is offering to exchange dollars for your child«s life...». Bannon interrupted him with a question: «Do you think you are the devil himself?». Epstein smiled and quipped: «No, but I have a good mirror.»
Bannon, unsatisfied with the answer, continued to insist, claiming that Epstein has all the attributes of the devil, including an incredible mind. Epstein, according to sources, was surprised to learn that the devil is considered smart, and stated that the devil scares him.
Epstein claimed to belong to the «lowest» threat class as a sexual predator.
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In another part of the interview, which took place after Bannon left the administration and before Epstein«s arrest in July 2019, Bannon asked if his interlocutor was a »sexual predator«. When asked what class of predator he belongs to, Epstein quickly answered: »level one«. When Bannon clarified if that was the highest and worst level, Epstein stated that it was, on the contrary, the lowest.
At the time of the interview, Epstein had already been convicted in Florida in 2008 for involving a minor in prostitution. Federal charges of sex trafficking of minors were brought against him only 11 years later, in 2019. A month after his arrest, on August 10, 2019, Epstein was found dead in his prison cell in New York.
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